More on the War

HA HA. Turn on the news, and look at the shots of the Iraqi civilians in Bahgdad knocking down a statue of Saddam, also ripping down posters and canvases with his mug on them. One old Iraqi man ripped down a picture of Hussein and proceeded to chew it up.

All I can say is, politics aside, good for the Iraqi people. We all have no idea the extent of the horrible conditions these poor people have been living in for the past who knows how many years. May they soon be free from terror and live in peace from cruel dictatorships which murder their families on a whim.

 

Quoting a certain poster from another forum:

It was a bit of an allegory, methinks.
The Iraqis ran up to the statue with sledge hammers and other things trying to knock it down, but they wern't getting far.
Then the Americans came in with their gear, got a big chain and a pully hooked up to the statue, and pulled the thing down.
Interesting, no? [/i]

 

Well said. And with that, I must say the actions of the Iraqi people offers at least a little solace to those of us wondering about the justification for this war. However, I still wonder what the global ramifications will be.

That, however was a little uneccessary, and childish. But that's ok, we've all done it~wink~

Very good. You've proven that you can read a few pages in the dicitionary, and use a few big words. Too bad there's no substance to them.

 

Meaning, I take it, that the Iraqis had been kept in hopeless situations for years, and the Americans, Brits, Aussies, and others stepped in and helped remove the oppressor, the "yoke around their necks" so to speak. I agree, quite interesting and very symbolic.

Ramifications, shamifications. I say don't worry about it. That kinda stuff will sort it's self out. Who knew what global ramifications were gonna be involved in tearing down the Berlin wall?

That, however was a little uneccessary, and childish. But that's ok, we've all done it~wink~[/quote]

Well, I really meant the "HA HA" as a sigh of relief, a feeling of euphoric joy. After all the bitter remarks and back-biting going on between all countries, it's sort of a relief to see something like the Iraqis were doing.

Oh, and I forgot to mention, when the statue hit the dirt, I saw several Iraqi citizens grab the military involved, hug their necks, and kiss their cheeks. I was very moved. Finally, images of humanity, and brotherhood, rather than vicious back-biting, back-stabbing, and general sour feelings of animosity. We're all brothers, however different our beliefs and views may be.

 

Then it will be all over soon, but it will be innteresting to see how the americans/british will handle it from now.

I still don't support the foundation that the war was launched on, nor the idea that a country with huge military support can go to preemtive strikes against any country of their choosing.

 

Right. Just the "americans and the british" cause, after all, it seems they are the only countries that giva crap about the whole dictators slaying their own people kinda thing. Q, I'm sorry, but your statement seems so typical of a lot of countries to me. Stand back, criticize the U.S./Britian for doing something/doing nothing, instead of pitching in.

 

I'm sorry, my bad. I misinterpreted. Damn the written(typed) medium!

No warrior should ever go into battle without considering the consequence of their actions. That's how dictators manage to conquer half the globe. That's how lives get lost, terrorism happens, and countries toppled. Many horrific events could've been avoided if those involved had just stopped to think about what they're doing.
Using the let's not worry about it line of thought is akin to ostrich syndrome, or worse yet: Callousness. Screw it, I'm gonna go and do it anyway and to hell with whomever it hurts.
So using that logic, should we all go out and get drunk then take a drive somewhere without giving a thought to who or what we run over?

Things that are rare where war is concerned.

Consider this, however. Remember a way back when hussein held that 'election'? People voted for him. Some in blood. No doubt this was done out of fear for their lives. Are these reactions we're seeing born of the same ilk? Are the Iraqis showing such signs of support because they fear what the invaders might do to them?
While I don't think that's the case, and I truly hope it isn't, It is possible. No one knows how deep hussein's propaganda reaches. This is the same regime that told its people and the Arab world that the US wasn't in Baghdad, when the troops were no more than 200 yds away.

I can't say I disagree. That only paves the way for facism and empire building. It is too remeniscent of the Soviet Union and their 'satelite countries'.

My biggest concern is what's next. How many more 'pre-emptive strikes' are going to happen? And will the US take steps to rebuild Iraq, or will it just leave it to languish in the wake of the 'war on terror'? I hope not.

 

do you know there are alot of people in the world burning american flags and bush portraits??? (includes americans as well)

 

Like omigawd, I like so did not know that some people in the world didn't like us! I am like so totally bummed out right now!

:roll: Thanks for bringing this to our attention Captain Obvious.

*sigh* Sometimes life just calls for a good ol' fashioned bisimg:



By the way, do YOU know how to use the quote feature properly?

 

Have you noticed that there is a country called Uzbekisan with in the great coalition of the willing? The country is a dictatur.
Going to storm it soon?

The US had the oppurtunity to stop saddam in 1991 allready, who was it that sat and waited on the side line and did nothing when he crushed the shiamuslims rebellion in 1991? Well that is not really true they created the no fly sone, so that they could stop his panzers from compleating the massacre, but by then there was to late for the people there to stop saddam.

I criticize the US and Britain for doing this since they then lower the reasons a country need to go to a war.
Now a suspiscion that there might be weapons of mass destruction in a country is reason enough for anyone to attack.

I see war as a solution that should be used as last consequense, a soultion that you should have solid proof to launch, not as a solution that you launch because you suspect something.

The problem is that even though bush is not reelected or even though he sits another period, the tradition will remain. A tradition that say that we can attack any country we like because there is a posibility that this country does not like us.

 

"A tradition that say that we can attack any country we like because there is a posibility that this country does not like us."

I think there was a little more to the declaration of war on Hussein's regime than this foolish statement Qilikatal, you've made your beliefs well known to all many times in the past weeks, can you give it a rest already? Or, at the very least, maintain some semblence of rationalism?

 

its not ME that doesnt noe how 2 use e quote its the dammable comp.
any help would be appreciated, tho

 

*hurls a dictionary at Backstabber*

Your help starts there.

 

haha

 

I vote that jinxed drag out the good old spam can for this one.

 

at??

 

Do you have a death wish?

 

No, it has been announced (or so I believe) that the US will help Iraq set up a democrasy before leaving.

Oh, and we didn't stop Suddam in '91 because we has Clinton for president. He not only did that, but he also sold military secrets to China, set hundreds of acres of forest off of logging (cause of all those forest fires), lied under oath, and stole much of the White House's furniture before he left.

Well, I didn't know that there were US citizens BURNING US flags. That's illegal.

 

The administration also promised to rebuild Afghanistan too. Rebuilding is more than just leaving a puppet administration in place after the troops are gone.

Umm..actually it was bush sr.

No it's not. Unless it's burned in violation of an ordinance against open fires. Flag burning, no matter what your opinion of it, is protected under the First Amendment. For now. Not that I'm particularly supportive of flag-burning.

And furthermore, if a flag is tattered and worn, the proper protocol for disposal is burning.

 

Unlike our current president, who wants to drill into pristine Alaskan wilderness, overturn Roe vs. Wade/legalised abortions, to give tax cuts to his social/economic stratusphere, limit the amount of money people can win from malpractice suits against doctors, wants us to report "suspiscious" or "terrorist" activities to his hotline and needs some serious botox. Sounds fantastic.